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the knock a lot of people in washington give to the obama white house it is too insular and he doesn't pull the kinds of expertise he needs into this white house. there's an opportunity in this second term for him to shake things up a little bit. you know, maybe to bring in new players, new faces who have been there from the clinton white house, and kind of help the dynamic and help the governing because a lot of people on capitol hill even democrats will tell you, he's not good at governing and building coalitions. maybe if he brought some folks in who knew how to do that there would be more give and take on the fiscal cliff issue, on the tax reform and entitlement reforms that we get next year, and there is a sense he really could use a bit of some fresh blood to make things a little easier going forward. >> chris, susan, and ari, thank you very much for all joining us. and the jobs report, more jobs are added in november than was predicted. what does it all mean for the economy? we'll have our own reality check next. first, new jersey governor chris christie stops by "the daily show
the knock a lot of people in washington give to the obama white house it is too insular and he doesn't pull the kinds of expertise he needs into this white house. there's an opportunity in this second term for him to shake things up a little bit. you know, maybe to bring in new players, new faces who have been there from the clinton white house, and kind of help the dynamic and help the governing because a lot of people on capitol hill even democrats will tell you, he's not good at governing...
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>> stephanie: newsletter blasts obama for having nbc host despite her visit to the bush white house. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: president obama has met with msnbc host along with other progressives -- was i invited no. can anyone even imagine if fox news had stopped by the bush white house to discuss policy? they would have been rightly outraged. [ wah wah ] >> rush limbaugh sat in george bush senior's box during the convention. >> stephanie: an influential group of conservative radio hosts including laura ingraham. >> imagine if we had down that. [ mocking whining ] >> to the right. >> >> stephanie: the "stephanie miller show" has no information as to whether laura ingraham likes her hair pulled during sex. if she does it's to the right. all right [ inaudible ] go ahead. >> caller: our president is doing so bad, but yet apple wants to move the factory here. >> stephanie: exactly right. unemployment dropped to the lowest in four years. >> caller: yeah, so i mean these guys are all hot wind. they are trying to push the statute of liberty over the cliff, and it is not happening. >> rea
>> stephanie: newsletter blasts obama for having nbc host despite her visit to the bush white house. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: president obama has met with msnbc host along with other progressives -- was i invited no. can anyone even imagine if fox news had stopped by the bush white house to discuss policy? they would have been rightly outraged. [ wah wah ] >> rush limbaugh sat in george bush senior's box during the convention. >> stephanie: an influential group of...
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. >> do you think the white house can stand its ground on this? if we get past the fiscal cliff and republicans are attempting to take this to the brink, do you think despite what president obama says, they have the capacity to say, listen, if you want to pull the pin on the grenade, you do it, but we're not going to do this anymore? >> on the fiscal cliff or the >>> you might remember a couple of times i've been here when i want to do something too boring even for the geeky nerd geeks on the "rachel maddow show" and i love you geeky nerd geeks, made me do it in seconds in a short segment called the ezra klein challenge. tomorrow the monthly job numbers are going to come out. everyone will freak out because they will be horrible. economists surveyed by bloomberg news say as low as 86,000. deutsche bank says could be as low as 25,000. don't freak out. in fact, you should probably ignore this report entirely, at least for now. and i'm going to tell you why in a bit less than 90 seconds. ready, clock? go. first remember what the jobs report it. it is
. >> do you think the white house can stand its ground on this? if we get past the fiscal cliff and republicans are attempting to take this to the brink, do you think despite what president obama says, they have the capacity to say, listen, if you want to pull the pin on the grenade, you do it, but we're not going to do this anymore? >> on the fiscal cliff or the >>> you might remember a couple of times i've been here when i want to do something too boring even for the...
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the state health insurance exchange is a key component to the obama care. it allows millions of middle class households as well as small businesses to shop for private insurance. states must decide by next friday if they want to set up their own exchange. they will -- they were allowed more time to mull over the decision after many republican governors delayed action. perhaps expecting a different outcome to the presidential election. new jersey is just the latest state with a republican governor to opt for the federal government to step in and create the exchange. let's turn to former vermont governor howard dean and former chairman of the dnc and contributor to cnbc. governor dean, good to have you with us tonight. i think you know this whole story well. these republican governors want these exchanges simply to fail, but is it actually in a way better to have the federal government step in and get that infrastructure if we want to expand it down the road someday? how do you see it? >> well, that's the interesting thing. the republicans at this point are c
the state health insurance exchange is a key component to the obama care. it allows millions of middle class households as well as small businesses to shop for private insurance. states must decide by next friday if they want to set up their own exchange. they will -- they were allowed more time to mull over the decision after many republican governors delayed action. perhaps expecting a different outcome to the presidential election. new jersey is just the latest state with a republican...
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. >> do you think the white house can stand its ground on this? if we get past the fiscal cliff and republicans are attempting to take this to the brink, do you think despite what president obama says, they have the capacity to say, listen, if you want to pull the pin on the grenade, you do it, but we're not going to do this anymore? >> on the fiscal cliff or the debt ceiling? >> on the debt ceiling. >> i was very interested by your reporting. that you took a really strong position there. i do think the white house has been transformed. both by the experience with the debt ceiling and with the election. i think if they want to stand their ground, i think they can actually do it. i think that that is, in fact, possible. can they? you know, we'll see. they seem a lot tougher now than they were last time around. don't you think? >> they sound very tough now. chrystia freeland of thomson, and author of "the plutocrats." >>> i promised you, red lobster, olive garden, timely for both, and i will deliver. that is ahead. [ male announcer ] take dayquil...
. >> do you think the white house can stand its ground on this? if we get past the fiscal cliff and republicans are attempting to take this to the brink, do you think despite what president obama says, they have the capacity to say, listen, if you want to pull the pin on the grenade, you do it, but we're not going to do this anymore? >> on the fiscal cliff or the debt ceiling? >> on the debt ceiling. >> i was very interested by your reporting. that you took a really...
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it didn't come from the white house, it didn't come from democrats, it came from senator jim demint. the tea party hero who famously made this vow with the president's health care law. >> if we're able to stop obama on this, it will be his waterloo. it will break him. >> guess what, it wasn't the president's waterlook but today he announced that he's leaving the senate to run a conservative think tank. and just like that, gone is is a man who represented all of the obstruction, the man who defined gridlock and was the face of ugliness in the tea party movement. the night of the president's inauguration, he met with other republicans to plot against the president. he threatened to single handedly shut down the senate in 2010 and stood strong with congressman todd akin after his legitimate rape comments. today's announcement is another line in the tea party obit. it's another nail in the tea party coffin. a movement that vowed to change washington. >> the tea party movement is alive and well. >> it's going to continue to redefine the political landscape in 2012. >> this november we're
it didn't come from the white house, it didn't come from democrats, it came from senator jim demint. the tea party hero who famously made this vow with the president's health care law. >> if we're able to stop obama on this, it will be his waterloo. it will break him. >> guess what, it wasn't the president's waterlook but today he announced that he's leaving the senate to run a conservative think tank. and just like that, gone is is a man who represented all of the obstruction, the...
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even some of the top minds in conservative circles are waving the white flag of surrender on tax cuts for the top 2%. >> so are you saying then for pr purposes, that they should give into obama on the tax rate? >> not exactly. well, yeah, i guess i am. >> i'm sorry, that was not one of the top conservative minds. that was ann coulter, but you have to and it to her. she's onto something there. a new quinnipiac poll shows 65% of americans support higher taxes on incomes over $250,000. the same survey showing the president's approval rating at a three-year high, 53%. the highest level since the body of osama bin laden was dumped in the north arabian sea. perhaps that's why senate majority leader harry reid felt confident enough to declare that until republicans move on tax rates, more spending cuts are off the table. >> the president made clear, i have tried to make very clear, until there's some movement in tax rates, we're -- i'm not talking about any other proposals, not about where there will be a cut here or a cut there. >> no. as a matter of fact, the only cuts the senate is talkin
even some of the top minds in conservative circles are waving the white flag of surrender on tax cuts for the top 2%. >> so are you saying then for pr purposes, that they should give into obama on the tax rate? >> not exactly. well, yeah, i guess i am. >> i'm sorry, that was not one of the top conservative minds. that was ann coulter, but you have to and it to her. she's onto something there. a new quinnipiac poll shows 65% of americans support higher taxes on incomes over...
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, the white house, congressional democrats, want to go over the fiscal cliff because they believe that it is more politically advantageous for them to do so. is that a sentiment you agree with or not? >> i believe that the president and the democrats see a political victory at the bottom of the fiscal cliff. i see financial problems for our country at the bottom of the fiscal cliff with unemployment over 9%, and another recession. i think -- i want to find a solution working with people on both sides of the aisle but when you have howard dean, the former chairman of the democratic national committee, you have patty murray, who ran the democratic senatorial committee encouraging going over the cliff i think it's irresponsible. i think we ought to have the president sitting down with john boehner, finding solutions that can, one, pass the house, and, two, be signed by the president, and i believe if you find that solution, it will pass the senate. >> senator john barrasso, thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> next on "andrea mitchell reports" -- as the house heads home, are democrat
, the white house, congressional democrats, want to go over the fiscal cliff because they believe that it is more politically advantageous for them to do so. is that a sentiment you agree with or not? >> i believe that the president and the democrats see a political victory at the bottom of the fiscal cliff. i see financial problems for our country at the bottom of the fiscal cliff with unemployment over 9%, and another recession. i think -- i want to find a solution working with people...
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aside from it fitting the democrat ex-ideology, it's also what president obama believes is a stimulus to the economy. >> yeah. >> that helps people have disposable income to go to restaurants, buy gas, buy food, to pay things for their children. and i would be very surprised if it ended up as part of the larger deal because it's not going to come in early spring. >> one of the things that's disappointing about this the food stamp issue which i agree with you on is being thrown into the basket in terms of talking about the agricultural reform. we do need ag reform in the country. the industry's changed quite a lot. there are a lot of commodities prices are up, a lot of wealthy farmers out there right now but only in certain areas. in some cases those are not the areas that are getting the subsidies that they need. it needs to be rethought from the ground up. food stamps are a separate issue. >> the farm law reverts back to 1949 law. >> anti-quoted. >> that's a long time ago, jay. >> and the rest of the country would be paying as much for milk as we are in new york city. >> $6 a gallon.
aside from it fitting the democrat ex-ideology, it's also what president obama believes is a stimulus to the economy. >> yeah. >> that helps people have disposable income to go to restaurants, buy gas, buy food, to pay things for their children. and i would be very surprised if it ended up as part of the larger deal because it's not going to come in early spring. >> one of the things that's disappointing about this the food stamp issue which i agree with you on is being thrown...
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the tax increases that president obama is now trying to push through will really do almost nothing to reduce our national deficit and nothing to reduce our national debt. the white house and democrats in the senate are focused only on tax hikes while they continue ignoring the real drivers of our debt, which is the out-of-control entitlement programs -- social security, medicare, and medicaid. until we find a way to do meaningful entitlement reform, no amount of tax revenue will be able to match the increase in violate spending. -- in entitlement spending. the president continues in his campaign mode going around the country to try to sell his tax hikes. the president and the democrats in congress are willing to go over the fiscal cliff in order to get those tax hikes. rather than negotiate in good faith, they're willing to try to spend their time trying to convince the american people that it's just someone else's fault. going over the fiscal cliff will mean another recession, and this one is squarely on the shoulders of president obama. it will mean unemployment spiking back up over
the tax increases that president obama is now trying to push through will really do almost nothing to reduce our national deficit and nothing to reduce our national debt. the white house and democrats in the senate are focused only on tax hikes while they continue ignoring the real drivers of our debt, which is the out-of-control entitlement programs -- social security, medicare, and medicaid. until we find a way to do meaningful entitlement reform, no amount of tax revenue will be able to...
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>> what the white house learned during the first term is that there are some things that work for obama and some things that don't. sitting down at a table with john boehner as essentially equals did not turn out as well as they might have hoped with the debt ceiling talks in 2011. but what did work was that winter when the president went to the country and argued for extending the payroll tax holiday and developed pressure outside of washington, he was a lot more successful. so they have two goals here. one is to keep the pressure coming from outside the beltway and the second is to make sure that this is not a negotiation between the president and boehner, that they want the president essentially floating above this. >> robert, when we talk and i know you had a chance to hear what congresswoman black will to say about trying to find the right balance here, while a majority of americans, say they go completely support raising taxes on wealthier americans, there is also a majority support that says we don't want to see earned benefits messed with, we don't want to see the medicare eligi
>> what the white house learned during the first term is that there are some things that work for obama and some things that don't. sitting down at a table with john boehner as essentially equals did not turn out as well as they might have hoped with the debt ceiling talks in 2011. but what did work was that winter when the president went to the country and argued for extending the payroll tax holiday and developed pressure outside of washington, he was a lot more successful. so they have...
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republicans say they're waiting on a counteroffer from the white house. back to you. dennis: should republicans hold out and let us go over the fiscal click? john brown of euro pacific capital is with us and former adviser to british prime minister margaret thatcher and he joins us with his take. thanks for being with us. do you think we are going over the cliff? >> cliff of sorts. the fiscal cliff was created by politicians who lack the courage to do the best for the american people. and already has done severe damage to the economy. now we have democrats who want to suck money out of the economy in tax and we have rhino republicans in name only who wants spending cuts. both those things will do damag% to the economy and any compromise will damage the economy and push it further into deep recession. neither side discusses the real problem which is the enormous costs of big government. cost in money and regulations and intrusion. neither side discusses that because they are career politicians and big government is their career. dennis: what should republicans do? shou
republicans say they're waiting on a counteroffer from the white house. back to you. dennis: should republicans hold out and let us go over the fiscal click? john brown of euro pacific capital is with us and former adviser to british prime minister margaret thatcher and he joins us with his take. thanks for being with us. do you think we are going over the cliff? >> cliff of sorts. the fiscal cliff was created by politicians who lack the courage to do the best for the american people. and...
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another very white area obama flips it by seven points. so why did we see this shift in the political middle and should this be the real source of concern for republicans going forward? right now let's bring in the bhaen hind patchwork nation. he is at the desk. it was about the middle. there was this mythology that somehow mitt romney won the middle because he won independents. >> right. >> it is completely clear it goes not the case. >> i think that is why it is important to go into these communities we used because of the way i like to think of the middle is not just independents because it is self-described. i like talking about places because places are what they are. they can't describe themselves. the numbers describe them to you. these places are moderate places. >> one thing and you want to look at this more and you'd like to lay over some census data when you get into this. i want to go to the boom towns. the boom towns were another name for the excerpts. is that the fairest way to describe it? >> i think that is a very fair way.
another very white area obama flips it by seven points. so why did we see this shift in the political middle and should this be the real source of concern for republicans going forward? right now let's bring in the bhaen hind patchwork nation. he is at the desk. it was about the middle. there was this mythology that somehow mitt romney won the middle because he won independents. >> right. >> it is completely clear it goes not the case. >> i think that is why it is important to...
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is in the white house because obama depended on people who were dependent on government. it is just the handout, the takers are the ones who elected barack obama. >> right. the gifts argument. i think there has been a split on the language of this, whether or not the actual ideals of it. the language, split since romney lost and made his little gifts comment after the election. >> bill: that obama won by handing out gifts to the constituencies. >> minorities, women. just gave them -- best example is gave women contraception for their votes. that's potentially -- basically what they said. sununu yesterday or i guess it was tuesday night said that he said the same thing. he was like if you look at this, it wasn't about message. we didn't lose because of message. we lost because -- >> bill: didn't lose because they had a lousy candidate. >> we lost because of the hold-in to obama and what they can give him. >> bill: they're just in denial, right? >> what's interesting about this is with romney specifically has been after that 47% video came out, the pathway romney went throu
is in the white house because obama depended on people who were dependent on government. it is just the handout, the takers are the ones who elected barack obama. >> right. the gifts argument. i think there has been a split on the language of this, whether or not the actual ideals of it. the language, split since romney lost and made his little gifts comment after the election. >> bill: that obama won by handing out gifts to the constituencies. >> minorities, women. just gave...
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at the white house this week. as for hillary clinton's position at the state department, the national journal reports that president obama is, quote, genuinely conflicted over whether to pick kerry or united nations ambassador susan rice. president obama said yesterday that republican attacks against susan rice will not influence his decision. jo ari, what do you make of the chuck hagel situation with his name floating into the mix now? >> i thinkç it's a good faith efforts to take in a wide range of views. we know that president obama in his first term, obviously, went with secretary gates despite his ties to republican foreign policy. hagel is more of a progressive voice, but i'm not sure that a second-term obama presidency reaches back to another republican defense figure. >> and as to the john kerry/susan rice dilemma that the president faces, he says that the attacks on susan rice won't affect his decision one way or another. it won't force his hand to nominate her, and it won't affect his decision to go wi
at the white house this week. as for hillary clinton's position at the state department, the national journal reports that president obama is, quote, genuinely conflicted over whether to pick kerry or united nations ambassador susan rice. president obama said yesterday that republican attacks against susan rice will not influence his decision. jo ari, what do you make of the chuck hagel situation with his name floating into the mix now? >> i thinkç it's a good faith efforts to take in a...
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abc's jake tapper is covering it all from the white house. and it's clear that president obama believes he has the upper hand here. >> reporter: he sure does, george. and later today, president obama will speak to corporate executives at the business roundtable. and he'll try to enlist their help in his negotiations with congressional republicans. and his latest demand, that congress remove its own power as it stands right now, to raise the debt ceiling. it is a bold gambit that congressional republicans are already calling a non-starter. paul ryan stepped back into the spotlight late tuesday, with a feisty shot at the president. >> i congratulate him on his victory. but on january 20th, he'll face a stagnant economy and a fiscal mess. you might even say he'll inherit these problems. >> reporter: there's a lot of bah humbug in washington, d.c. these days. 'tis the season to be surly. the president told bloomberg television that without tax rates going up on the wealthiest americans, there will be no deal to avert going over the fiscal cliff.
abc's jake tapper is covering it all from the white house. and it's clear that president obama believes he has the upper hand here. >> reporter: he sure does, george. and later today, president obama will speak to corporate executives at the business roundtable. and he'll try to enlist their help in his negotiations with congressional republicans. and his latest demand, that congress remove its own power as it stands right now, to raise the debt ceiling. it is a bold gambit that...
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with the white house and congress on the fiscal cliff. hear the new proposal from congressman paul ryan and senator mark rubio. >> steve: will he work with the liberal media. president obama extends extra special invites for sit down with liberal gabbers. >> brian: he is one of america's favorite coach. his career almost ended early and fans had no idea. the coach revealed something for the very first time. by the way. "fox and friends" starts now. ♪ ♪ "fox and friends". >> steve: you must be conflicted today. >> brian: in what way? >> steve: we have coach k on and any time we have peitro, the super model who has been a friend of your manies, many years. >> brian: i am looking forward to nick rangon. >> gretchen: you will have to duke me out for it then. >> brian: you start with him in 10 minutes. >> gretchen: you want to trade coach for nick it will coach you. >> brian: and edrolins to be named later. >> gretchen: and i always like rolins. >> brian: pet up with us. she was a young super model. >> gretchen: does she know she was off y
with the white house and congress on the fiscal cliff. hear the new proposal from congressman paul ryan and senator mark rubio. >> steve: will he work with the liberal media. president obama extends extra special invites for sit down with liberal gabbers. >> brian: he is one of america's favorite coach. his career almost ended early and fans had no idea. the coach revealed something for the very first time. by the way. "fox and friends" starts now. ♪ ♪ "fox and...
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president obama told bloomberg tv a deal is possible, but -- >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. >> reporter: that plan sent to the white house offers a total of $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction over the next decade. that includes $1.2 trillion in spending cuts and $800 billion in new tax revenue, but here's the key. no rate increases in the top 2% of taxpayers. that's non-negotiable for president obama. >> we're not going to be able to got a deal without it. >> reporter: the white house says the republicans' math just doesn't add up. >> it's magic beans and fairy dust. >> reporter: negotiations have reached a stalemate. >> there's nothing going on privately that is not going on publicly. >> reporter: there is no plan at this time for congressional leaders to meet with the president at the white house, and it doesn't sound like he's sending out invitations any time soon. >> i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. >> reporter: earlier, the president met with the bipartisan group of governors. >> we understand th
president obama told bloomberg tv a deal is possible, but -- >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. >> reporter: that plan sent to the white house offers a total of $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction over the next decade. that includes $1.2 trillion in spending cuts and $800 billion in new tax revenue, but here's the key. no rate increases in the top 2% of taxpayers. that's non-negotiable for president obama. >> we're not going to be able to...
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if obama could in the white house receive the petition and say, okay, go ahead. you're on your own. because the states, the various that have filed for these petitions, red states, tend to take in a lot more in government benefits than they pay in taxes. it would be very good -- >> you didn't name names in your one-eighth theory. but here are some names. ron paul, very recent congressman, national candidate for the presidency many times. he said secession is a deeply american, a deeply american principle. meanwhile, alan keyes, he wrote that while he doesn't think we've reached the point where secession is necessary necessarily, it remains a, quote, god endowed inalienable right. there you have people with educations, people with brains and a knowledge of american history, who come out and argue that this is something that should be put on the table. >> yeah. i guess brains and an education but still somehow profoundly ignorant, and they're emblematic of if not the ignorant people in the republican people, at least people who will pander to that ignorance. it's apiece of birtherism,
if obama could in the white house receive the petition and say, okay, go ahead. you're on your own. because the states, the various that have filed for these petitions, red states, tend to take in a lot more in government benefits than they pay in taxes. it would be very good -- >> you didn't name names in your one-eighth theory. but here are some names. ron paul, very recent congressman, national candidate for the presidency many times. he said secession is a deeply american, a deeply...
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they met privately with president obama over at the white house today. among the governors, the utah republican governor, gary herbert. he's joining us now from capitol hill. governor herbert, thanks very much for coming in. take us inside that room, if you can. what did you learn from that meeting that you didn't know going in? >> i don't know if we learned a lot different, but it was nice to have the governors invited to be in the room. we sometimes have been ignored and underappreciated. and i think we have something to offer to help them solve some of the policy issues. >> are you more or less confident that we will avoid going over the fiscal cliff? >> i've got some concerns that they're still a ways apart. states are trying to do their part by doing more with less. we recognize it's a shared sacrifice. we're prepared to take less money and we ask to give us more flexibility. we can do more with less as a state. >> what does that mean, more flexibility? explain. >> well, money comes with strings. the more strings, the less flexibility. for example,
they met privately with president obama over at the white house today. among the governors, the utah republican governor, gary herbert. he's joining us now from capitol hill. governor herbert, thanks very much for coming in. take us inside that room, if you can. what did you learn from that meeting that you didn't know going in? >> i don't know if we learned a lot different, but it was nice to have the governors invited to be in the room. we sometimes have been ignored and...
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president obama said it's not the time to sit down. that essentially these gothss are getting hammered out behind the scenes. you had the white house congressional holiday party last night, and according to multiple sources who were there, house speaker john boehner and the president didn't even speak. the house speaker didn't get in line to shake hands with the president, to greet him. i have spoken to sources within his office who say there were a lot of people there and he sees the president all the time, but it's a sign that these negotiations at least at their top levels have come to a bit of a stand still and that is something that is causing a lot of people concern tonight. >> it's a shame he isn't offer that courtesy to the president. the president has sate the current proposal is unbalanced, but with speaker boehner now being attacked by people within his own caucus, as you know, does this not suggest he probably won't be able to do any better, and i guess that must mean we're going to get to the end of the year and go over th
president obama said it's not the time to sit down. that essentially these gothss are getting hammered out behind the scenes. you had the white house congressional holiday party last night, and according to multiple sources who were there, house speaker john boehner and the president didn't even speak. the house speaker didn't get in line to shake hands with the president, to greet him. i have spoken to sources within his office who say there were a lot of people there and he sees the president...
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president obama meeting with governors on both sides of the aisle as d.c. struggles to get a fiscal cliff deal done in time. definitely the clock is ticking. rich edson joins us from the white house with the very latest with the governors meeting today, rich. >> right. with the governors meeting a number of democrats and republicans emerged from the west wing saying they pressed the president to get a deal done. they say they didn't endorse or reject either of the proposals on the table but still washington continues to muddle through this. the democrats have a proposal on the table. the republicans say it is not serious. republicans have a proposal on the table. democrats say it is not serious. now a new line in the sand from president obama, this from an interview with bloomberg tv a short while ago saying we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. the president hadn't gone there before. perhaps there was perhaps a wiggle room following thought. still there is no line in the sand how m
president obama meeting with governors on both sides of the aisle as d.c. struggles to get a fiscal cliff deal done in time. definitely the clock is ticking. rich edson joins us from the white house with the very latest with the governors meeting today, rich. >> right. with the governors meeting a number of democrats and republicans emerged from the west wing saying they pressed the president to get a deal done. they say they didn't endorse or reject either of the proposals on the table...
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let's fix dinner. >>> president obama has opened the white house doors to a bipartisan group of governors and one of the notable names not on the guest list, is texas governor rick perry. the former presidential candidate still has plenty of ideas about federal power as well as some of his colleagues. >> bobby jindal, mary fallen and susana martinez are my neighbors and governor in arkansas, they're all competitors. they are all competitors and they will make you stronger. that's, i think, the difference in -- between the two competing philosophies out there. listen, you know, we want to be left alone and do our own thing and you all don't come into our states and try to take our companies. >> we'll look at some of the governors attending today's meeting and discuss why it's harder to be a republican in a state house than under the capitol dome. that's next. you ever notice that some people just have a knack for giving the perfect gift? they put real thought into it. and find just... the right...thing. how do they do that? more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. pick
let's fix dinner. >>> president obama has opened the white house doors to a bipartisan group of governors and one of the notable names not on the guest list, is texas governor rick perry. the former presidential candidate still has plenty of ideas about federal power as well as some of his colleagues. >> bobby jindal, mary fallen and susana martinez are my neighbors and governor in arkansas, they're all competitors. they are all competitors and they will make you stronger....
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connell: breaking news from the white house. the governors are just finishing their meeting with president obama. let's listen to a bit of it live. >> we will be included to give our advice, opinion upon public our budget.how it will affect we also have ideas how we can save money. how we could be able to create more efficiencies and government and spending with some different demonstrations we have done in our very states. we plan on giving back with some of our suggestions and ideas. we appreciate their time today. statement we are not saying it to beat this plan or the plan. what we all agree on is something needs to get done. taxes on so many nano class americans can go off at the beginning of the yeaa if something is not done. with that, we would be happy to take some questions. >> with a be put off on discussion? did you encourage the president's tax plan to go off? >> we are not backing one particular plan or another. like i said a moment ago. none of us want to see taxes on middle-class folks go out. we think it would ha
connell: breaking news from the white house. the governors are just finishing their meeting with president obama. let's listen to a bit of it live. >> we will be included to give our advice, opinion upon public our budget.how it will affect we also have ideas how we can save money. how we could be able to create more efficiencies and government and spending with some different demonstrations we have done in our very states. we plan on giving back with some of our suggestions and ideas. we...
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the white house demanding higher tax rates for the top two tax brackets, and the republicans refusing. after rejecting the obama administration proposal last week, house republicans offered an outline for $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction, mostly through spending cuts. and while president obama would not answer questions about the counterproposal -- >> no deal better than a bad deal, sir? >> reporter: -- a senior white house official assailed it as a step backward, saying if republicans do not agree to some higher rates for wealthier taxpayer, the nation will go over the cliff, and the american people will hold the republicans responsible. wall street remains optimistic a deal will be struck. so the lack of progress is not yet resulted in a market plunge. but some economists estimate that because of the uncertainty posed by the fiscal cliff, at least 200,000 fewer jobs have been created this year. the official deadline is december 31st at midnight when the ball drops in times square. the deadline is before that, a week from friday when the house of representatives is scheduled to go
the white house demanding higher tax rates for the top two tax brackets, and the republicans refusing. after rejecting the obama administration proposal last week, house republicans offered an outline for $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction, mostly through spending cuts. and while president obama would not answer questions about the counterproposal -- >> no deal better than a bad deal, sir? >> reporter: -- a senior white house official assailed it as a step backward, saying if...
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the white house saying president obama is saying rates should go up on those making $250,000 or more. these are two starting proposals. the white house has put their proposal out last week. it really drew a hard line, calls for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue, most of that coming from increasing taxes on wealthier americans, but this republican plan very different, does not call for increasing taxes on wealthier americans. president also wants to end congressional oversight of the debt limit. there's no such offer in the republican plan. in fact, some aides have told me that that is a pipe dream. so these two sides still very far apart. now, tonight, martin, the white house will be inviting members of congress here for the holiday party. house speaker john boehner will be here as well. there have been a lot of questions about whether these two will run into each other, whether they will talk about the fiscal cliff. no one is signaling what they might discuss, but house speaker john boehner when asked about tonight's event said that he thinks he might run into the president. >> no dou
the white house saying president obama is saying rates should go up on those making $250,000 or more. these are two starting proposals. the white house has put their proposal out last week. it really drew a hard line, calls for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue, most of that coming from increasing taxes on wealthier americans, but this republican plan very different, does not call for increasing taxes on wealthier americans. president also wants to end congressional oversight of the debt limit....
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but the talks continue between congressional leaders and the white house. house republican leaders have made a counter offer to president obama in the fiscal cliff negotiations proposing to cut to true knowledge with a combination of spending cuts come entitlement reform, and new tax revenues. there was a three page letter signed by speaker boehner, majority leader eric cantor, and other senior republicans including representative paul ryan. and this mornings "washington journal," we heard about tax reductions and credits that would go away if the fiscal cliff passes in january. >> board or series looking into the so-called fiscal cliff, we turn our attention to deductions and tax loopholes. some of them are potentially on the chopping block. joining us from the wall street journal is don mckinnon. thanks so much for joining us today. what are the loopholes and deductions? we hear those words a lot, but what are they? guest: loopholes or tax breaks of all different sorts, and whether you like a particular loophole or not depends on where you sit, i guess. t
but the talks continue between congressional leaders and the white house. house republican leaders have made a counter offer to president obama in the fiscal cliff negotiations proposing to cut to true knowledge with a combination of spending cuts come entitlement reform, and new tax revenues. there was a three page letter signed by speaker boehner, majority leader eric cantor, and other senior republicans including representative paul ryan. and this mornings "washington journal," we...
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the white house just confirmed president obama will be answering questions on twitter regarding the fiscal cliff orifior fiscal stalemate. we'll get a live report how it works. can he get the ball rolling? congressman karen bass and conk man chris van hollen will join me to talk about where things stand. bob costas bold statement on gun control in the wake of the suicide involving javon belcher. we'll have reaction to it the. john mccain's interesting comment to john kerry at an event that took place a few hours ago. we'll play the exchange, reading any tea leaves. [ designer ] enough of just covering up my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. i decided enough is enough. ♪ [ spa lady ] i started enbrel. it's clinically proven to provide clearer skin. [ rv guy ] enbrel may not work for everyone -- and may not clear you completely, but for many, it gets skin clearer fast, within 2 months, and keeps it clearer up to 9 months. [ male announcer ] because enbrel®, etanercept, suppresses your immune system, it may lower your ability to fight infections. serious, sometimes fatal, events includi
the white house just confirmed president obama will be answering questions on twitter regarding the fiscal cliff orifior fiscal stalemate. we'll get a live report how it works. can he get the ball rolling? congressman karen bass and conk man chris van hollen will join me to talk about where things stand. bob costas bold statement on gun control in the wake of the suicide involving javon belcher. we'll have reaction to it the. john mccain's interesting comment to john kerry at an event that took...
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thanks so much. >>> another four years in the white house for first lady michelle obama but there's talk about her plans for the future. could they involve the white house in 2016. plus still so many unanswered questions about what happened and why an nfl player killed his girlfriend before taking his own life. the team and the football league what they can learn from this tragedy. >>> breaking news coming to us out of atlanta, georgia. an elementary school has been evacuated after an incident of carbon monoxide poisoning. students and adults were taken to a hospital after being overcome by fumes. >>> a bittersweet victory for the secretary of state chiefs after the murder/suicide. the head coach who watched aso van belcher took his life on saturday spoke about the tragedy after the game. >> it's tough when circumstance happen you can't undo them. so you have to rely on each other, rely on your family, friend and rely on your faith and that's what the team tried to do. we were able to do that. >> joining me is rob from nbc sports. as we hear more about this story. so tragic. 25 years old
thanks so much. >>> another four years in the white house for first lady michelle obama but there's talk about her plans for the future. could they involve the white house in 2016. plus still so many unanswered questions about what happened and why an nfl player killed his girlfriend before taking his own life. the team and the football league what they can learn from this tragedy. >>> breaking news coming to us out of atlanta, georgia. an elementary school has been evacuated...
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>> well, the white house said president obama presented his plan last week and the gop leaders shot it down. now, the ball is in the hands of the republicans. right now, it's all about the math. republicans may have to cave on taxes but president obama may have to accept deeper spending cuts. only 18 days left. >> the messy art of compromise. tahman bradley live in washington. >>> and rivers are rising across northern california this morning after three powerful storms blow through in less than a week. the latest round of flooding rain drenched the area yesterday, knocking down giant trees and leaving nearly 100,000 people without power. high winds overturned tractor trailers. abc's cecilia vega shows us what it looked like in california wine country. >> reporter: this is a storm that slammed the west coast from washington all the way down to the san francisco bay area. and this, take a look at it, one of the hardest hit regions, vineyards all over napa valley under water right now. >> a much dryer day is on tap across northern california, but just after midnight, get this, a fourth st
>> well, the white house said president obama presented his plan last week and the gop leaders shot it down. now, the ball is in the hands of the republicans. right now, it's all about the math. republicans may have to cave on taxes but president obama may have to accept deeper spending cuts. only 18 days left. >> the messy art of compromise. tahman bradley live in washington. >>> and rivers are rising across northern california this morning after three powerful storms blow...
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so the white house giving up at that point was not surprising to me. it's not clear it's the political will on capitol hill to close gitmo, the problem being once you close gitmo, the detainees have to go to prisons in the united states. every senator is basically like, not my district, not my state. i'm not sure until there's a real issue from the senate and the house that you can really move this. the president tried pretty hard, i thought, and is really, like, a loss 90-6 is hard to cover from. >> i agree with perry. it's definitely true you had the democrats in there making the same point, basically they didn't want to see detainees come to the u.s. in that respect, the president was very much boxed in. the problem, though, goes beyond the debate as it stood. i think what the president has to do is outline a post-9/11 detention policy that deals with what mr. johnson said in the clip we played. >> is there political will on the hill even for that? >> if you get the policy, what democrats at the time said if we go through and understand what the tri
so the white house giving up at that point was not surprising to me. it's not clear it's the political will on capitol hill to close gitmo, the problem being once you close gitmo, the detainees have to go to prisons in the united states. every senator is basically like, not my district, not my state. i'm not sure until there's a real issue from the senate and the house that you can really move this. the president tried pretty hard, i thought, and is really, like, a loss 90-6 is hard to cover...